tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-406530256476132925.post8489248297664155766..comments2023-04-28T02:54:01.791-05:00Comments on Kara Edwards...The Voices in Her Head: A Little Extra Goes a Long WayKara Edwardshttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11694937511077230939noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-406530256476132925.post-61686589560842676872008-06-09T21:40:00.000-05:002008-06-09T21:40:00.000-05:00Brian-Thank you so much for your comment! Finding...Brian-<BR/><BR/>Thank you so much for your comment! Finding out what will happen with the audio before you send it is a wonderful idea. It does determine if any compression etc should be added. <BR/><BR/>As a side note, I owe so very much to Brian for teaching me most of what I know about editing and producing in Pro Tools (I spent most of my career working with Cool Edit and Adobe Audition prior to go full-time). You are a wonderful producer, and a very talented voice actor my friend! Brian even produced my radio imaging demo- it is fantastic!<BR/><BR/>KaraKara Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11694937511077230939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-406530256476132925.post-87945558229653520132008-06-09T18:40:00.000-05:002008-06-09T18:40:00.000-05:00Kara, good discussion. About 95% of my business i...Kara, good discussion. About 95% of my business is repeat and I have yet to "just send them the raw audio". What I mean by that is, I first find out what they are going to do with the audio...is there going to be any post work. If not, I provide the client with the best possible audio (cleaned up, slight compressed, my standard EQ if necessary, and at a normalized peak level around -4 to -3dB). The reason I do that extra step is that I certainly want to please the client but "that's my voice" and I need it to sound as best as possible, thus the need to find out if they are doing any post is critical. <BR/><BR/>I have gotten direct referrals whereby someone heard my voice on a promo and when the client was asked "who's voice is that", they quickly gave the guy my contact info which gave me the opportunity to serve him too! <BR/><BR/>So, YES...I "edit" my audio. One thing to keep in mind. I have actually worked on a project whereby YOU provided a voice for my client. It was great to get your audio because, as a fellow editor, I didn't have to sit there and fix everything. There were a few things I did to suit my taste and made a couple fixes, but that was a welcomed audio file because I get some people who send me audio and it takes a good bit to get it straightened out. I would be horrified to send audio to people that sounded like some I have received. Now, I don't mean the voice quality, I'm talking about all the pops, snaps, odd vocal noises, excessive breathing etc...it can take some time. Thus, I think like an editor when I send audio! I believe this has served me well as a result.<BR/><BR/>I guess I feel sending the very best "product" I can is how I view it. When people get my audio, if they are like me, they will be thrilled beyond measure because I just saved them time and effort...something that can render a dividend in the future.<BR/><BR/>Brian in CharlotteVoice Prohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14613042693259252732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-406530256476132925.post-12509157870301840552008-06-08T12:53:00.000-05:002008-06-08T12:53:00.000-05:00Hah!I'd hardly say that is the case.Hah!<BR/><BR/>I'd hardly say that is the case.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-406530256476132925.post-38734311036161188612008-06-08T12:18:00.000-05:002008-06-08T12:18:00.000-05:00Hah! Very true Greg! Thanks for double checking-...Hah! Very true Greg! Thanks for double checking- while I might have known what I was talking about in this one time, that isn't usually the case! Heheh!<BR/><BR/>KaraKara Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11694937511077230939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-406530256476132925.post-48861520619279839242008-06-08T11:50:00.000-05:002008-06-08T11:50:00.000-05:00Like I said, the devil is in the details.Because i...Like I said, the devil is in the details.<BR/><BR/>Because it's a term that been mis-used so often (even by the professionals), I always ask.<BR/><BR/>Take a look at several of the postings on the P2P sites, you'll find the misuse of the term quite readily (and the requisite kvetching from the talent after they landed the job).<BR/><BR/>Cheers!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-406530256476132925.post-60706910598958945812008-06-08T11:12:00.000-05:002008-06-08T11:12:00.000-05:00Greg-It's wonderful to hear from you on this topic...Greg-<BR/><BR/>It's wonderful to hear from you on this topic- thank you! <BR/><BR/>I am always very upfront with my clients- there is a big difference between editing and producing. Producing for me means adding compression, EQ, SFX, music- whatever is needed. Yes, that brings with it an extra fee. In fact, I always have in writing that if the production takes longer than (agreed upon hours) for a flat rate, there is an additional hourly fee. <BR/><BR/>Fortunately, I haven't run into a client yet that confused editing with producing :). They are very different animals. Editing should take minutes...I've had projects I've produced take days and weeks depending on the size.<BR/><BR/>You are right, 'throwing in' production is never a good idea, one must never sell their talens short!<BR/><BR/>Thanks again for the comment!<BR/>KaraKara Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11694937511077230939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-406530256476132925.post-30850588106019600622008-06-08T11:06:00.000-05:002008-06-08T11:06:00.000-05:00Hey Justin!Thanks for stopping by and leaving a co...Hey Justin!<BR/><BR/>Thanks for stopping by and leaving a comment!<BR/><BR/>KaraKara Edwardshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11694937511077230939noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-406530256476132925.post-86000303570751589722008-06-08T10:51:00.000-05:002008-06-08T10:51:00.000-05:00Well Kara, it depends on what your definition of e...Well Kara, it depends on what your definition of editing is. While the recording industry has their definition, often I find that clients have another.<BR/><BR/>For me, it can mean anything from breath removal, and piecing together clips (which for me is the traditional use of the term), to mixing and mastering (which is oft-referred to as editing by some clients, though it really shouldn't be).<BR/><BR/>Light editing, no problem. It's a simple process and for a :60 second spot takes about 5-10 minutes. When we get into mixing and mastering, that can take up to 2-3 hours for the same spot due to what's required (multiple passes with EQ and compression to determine which works best for the spot, additional tracks which need to be edited in, and also processed, etc.).<BR/><BR/>If you're not charging for that level of work (and many people do not), then you can quickly find yourself spending countless hours in front of the console for free. Doesn't make much sense to have a $300 fee for a :60 commercial, if I have to spend the time recording, then an extra 2 hours or so to mix and master the clip.<BR/><BR/>My opinion is that if you offer as part of your pricing, let it be known and let it be know just what level of service that entails. If you charge extra, then let the client know why it's worth the extra price and what that service entails.<BR/><BR/>You'll often find that when things are explained properly, that your clients are much more amenable to paying the costs (who knows, it might even turn into another side of your business... I know that mine has).<BR/><BR/>But that's just my $0.02 worth.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-406530256476132925.post-85815548741447729302008-06-07T20:31:00.000-05:002008-06-07T20:31:00.000-05:00Wonderful observations, Kara. Thanks for sharing ...Wonderful observations, Kara. Thanks for sharing them!Justin S Barretthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00328053567237488058noreply@blogger.com